‘-Your clan names, your popular culture was imported by the Gaels, from Ireland’
Ah, tah bay shore boyo! But seriously, Clans, they don’t exist in Ireland. It’s as simple as that, so why are you trying to take credit for them? I don’t give one fuck if you have family names in Ireland, they still aren’t Clans; why? Because the Clans you’re thinking off, are Scottish Clans, which happen to be the only type of Clans in the world. Why is this? Because we took familial names, loose tribal confederacy’s of blood and bondage between chieftains and their people, and turned it into a paragon of our culture. Tartans, Kilts, Clan badges, crests, motto’s and war-cries; these are all a product of Scottish Clans, because we made it so. We turned these family names into something more, rather than letting them simply remain names.
Do you understand that? And do you also understand that the English have familial surnames common to groups of people, and of regional specificity. Yet, just like the Irish people having common or shared ancestral or regional surnames, they also did nothing with them, other than bear them. See, any culture in the world with a similar naming structure as Britain, could just as easily have developed a similarly unique familial structure of common, or perceived commonality among its population, as Scotland had, and continues to do so. Just because Ireland and Scotland are similar, and just because Ireland gave us our language, and the suffix Mac to signify ‘Son of’; in no way gives you the right to lay claim over anything Scottish as a result, and certainly not the Clan system.
For example; does England get to say they landed a man on the moon, simply for having been the Americans’ foundational ethnicity?
Moving on, and of course, ‘Whiskey’ and ‘Scots Gaelic’ are mentioned. Whelp, first off, it’s Whisky, not Whiskey. Whiskey, in fact, applies only to the iodine the Americans are so fond off, and to your own inferior brand of mouth wash. Secondly, according to Wikipedia:
The art of distillation spread to Ireland and Scotland no later than the 15th century, as did the common European practice of distilling “aqua vitae” or spirit alcohol primarily for medicinal purposes. The practice of medicinal distillation eventually passed from a monastic setting to the secular via professional medical practitioners of the time, The Guild of Barber Surgeons The earliest Irish mention of whisky comes from the seventeenth-century Annals of Clonmacnoise, which attributes the death of a chieftain in 1405 to “taking a surfeit of aqua vitae” at Christmas. In Scotland, the first evidence of whisky production comes from an entry in the Exchequer Rolls for 1494 where malt is sent “To Friar John Cor, by order of the king, to make aquavitae”, enough to make about 500 bottles.
So, form the above, what can we confer? Well, the earliest mention of Whiskey in Ireland was written down in the 1600’s, but concerns the 1400’s; whereas, in Scotland, we have actual evidence of it having been in production in 1494, from actual records from that period. Also worth noting, is the fact that Scotch, as is the proper denomination for Scottish produced Whisky, and Irish Whiskey do not in fact originate in either country, and is not, and was not, a product of a Gaelic mind. That is a fact. But, because Scotch is so popular, but the Irish also make it, but don’t always get credit for that one pointless boast, this individual simply seems to be butt hurt that Ireland isn’t getting the same attention as Scotland is in that particular thread of random comments, on a random YouTube video.
‘The Pictish peoples that populated the land that would later be named Scotland DID NOT HAVE this naming convention’
387–412: Talorc mac Achiuir: Pictish King of the 3rd century; his rule occurring two hundred years before the establishment of the Gaelic Kingdom of Dal Riada. Make of that as you will. Also, who cares if the suffix Mac, or Mc, arrived in Scotland from Ireland? We have Gaelic blood, ancestry and heritage, and what of it? Does that make an Irishman feel smug? Does that somehow prove something, that we Scot’s have a good portion of our identity inexplicitly entwined with that of ancient Ireland, suddenly makes all of our culture yours for the taking? It was millennia ago that our Gaelic ancestors left Ireland, by the way; you realize that? And the Gaels weren’t even Irish, they were Gaels, you realize that also; yes? Don’t try and tear down my fucking culture, because you’re also on shaky fucking ground, my Irish friend:
Gaelic Ireland (Irish: Éire Ghaidhealach) was the Gaelic political and social order, and associated culture, that existed in Ireland from the prehistoric era until the early 17th century. Before the Norman invasion of 1169, Gaelic Ireland comprised the whole island. Thereafter, it comprised that part of the country not under foreign dominion at a given time. For most of its history, Gaelic Ireland was a ‘patchwork’ hierarchy of territories ruled by a hierarchy of kings or chiefs, who were elected through tanistry.
Did you read that part about the 17th century, and the bit about the Norman invasion? See, Ireland isn’t perfectly Gaelic, and it would be so, so easy for me to point out just how drastically it wasn’t always Gaelic at numerous stages of its history; the 9th century Vikings, for instance, who founded many settlements along your coastlines, inlets, and waterways, that then became your first major towns; the populations of which would have been partly Norse. Or what about the five-eight hundred or so years of English occupation, eh:
After the Norman invasion of 1169–71, large swathes of Ireland came under the control of Norman lords, leading to centuries of conflict with the native Irish. The King of England claimed sovereignty over this territory – the Lordship of Ireland – and the island as a whole. However, the Gaelic system continued in areas outside Anglo-Norman control.
In 1542, Henry VIII of England declared the Lordship a Kingdom and himself King of Ireland. The English then began to conquer (or re-conquer) the island. By 1607, Ireland was fully under English control, bringing the old Gaelic political and social order to an end. – Wikipedia
Oh, what’s that; Gaelic culture was all but wiped out in Ireland for several hundred years! Oh my! So much for Irelands fabled ‘warrior heritage’…see how I smoothly segued that part in there…But honestly, seriously, speaking of warriors and warfare, Scotland kicked Irelands arse several times, in fact, out of roughly five major conflicts between our two countries, Scotland won either four, or three out of five. Sure, you fought England, but they fucking conquered you lot, completely, and for several centauries; that’s nothing to be proud of boys. Scotland, however, was never conquered, by any one. Rome couldn’t do it, nor could the Danish Vikings, Anglo-Saxons, Normans, or the English! Hell, the Vikings were terrified of us Scots, and so much so that they went ahead and wrote what amounted to pamphlets warning others of their kind from even traveling to Scotland, such was the danger from the ferocious and war-like natives! ‘Warrior heritage’? Really; we Scots have dominated battlefields all across the continents. American four star generals have written books about the courage and valor of the Scottish soldier. The French kings, and Viking ones, used us as bodyguards; The Garde Écossaise:
The Scottish leaders were persuaded to return to Scotland to recruit more troops. The Scottish leadership returned in 1420 with another 4000-5000 reinforcements. While their leaders were at home the Dauphin assigned the Scottish contingent throughout his armies and garrisons and picked a number, roughly one hundred of the best warriors, to be his personal body guard. The Scotsmen fought with distinction throughout France with a notable win at the Battle of Baugé in 1421, where the Duke of Clarence was said to have been felled by Buchan’s Mace.
And what of the Gallowglass mercenary’s, mainly MacDonald Clansmen? Those Scottish-Norse warriors dominated Irish battlefields for decade, after bloody decade; Scottish soldiers sorting out problems the native Irish couldn’t stomach. Should I go on? There’s Sir John Hepburn and the Green Brigade; look him up, as he was described as ‘The Greatest fighting man in Christendom’ or what about the 92nd, or the 73rd? What about the Redshank mercenaries? What about the terror Scottish soldiers struck within the hearts of the Nazi’s during WW1/2; do the ‘Devils in skirts’ ring a bell? What about the lone Scottish soldier who captured six hundred Germans, single-handedly. Or the last bayonet charge mounted in modern history, wherein around fifteen to twenty Scottish soldiers, out of ammo, and with only fixed bayonets, charged around thirty Taliban insurgents after their armored personal carrier had been struck by a rocket launcher; of those thirty well-armed insurgents, all had been killed, with only one Scotsman wounded. Did I forget to mention that the Taliban still had a fucking rocket launcher on them! I can keep going by the way, after all; you’re the one that started this pissing contest, à la ‘It’s a shame you Scots didn’t also borrow this part of Irish culture’- the funniest thing an Irishman has ever come away with, since they decided that ‘crack’ was spelt ‘Craic’ and that it was a magical fairy word meaning merriment and mirth. It’s not, BTW
Anyway, now feels like as good a point as any to state that Scotland eventually joined with England, not through conquest, but political scheming, whereas Ireland was utterly beaten into submission by them. Yet this guy, he thinks that just because his people finally, eventually, got around to freeing themselves of the English, means that they’re somehow now totally bad ass, you know; for doing something that Scotland did consistently, and for centuries beforehand. Remember lads, you lot were under the boot heel, but we Scots were just under the thumb; and through it all, all that struggle and strife, repeated attempts at conquest and decimation, attempted cultural genocide and suppression of native identity; we Scots retained our dignity, and our pride! We remained on our feet! We never knelt, nor bowed our heads!
Now, to any Irish person reading this; listen. I’m proud of my ancient Irish heritage, as all Scots should be. I’m proud, and grateful, that Ireland shared its beautiful language with us, and lastly, I’m also proud of the enduring bond our two wonderful countries share, but; if you want to try and tear down my heritage and culture, then you make sure you’re standing on solid fucking ground first.